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Don't believe so. Tis where I ordered the Headers from....and I did a pretty exhaustive search of the site.
Don't believe so. Tis where I ordered the Headers from....and I did a pretty exhaustive search of the site.
But in all honesty, I don't want much louder, maybe a little just a bit more "throat" to it.
You have inspection up in Mass? If so you have to get some O2's. I believe you only need 2. One for the beginning of each Y-Pipe. I may be wrong though. I'm taking out all of that gunk soon, as SC has no inspection.
I do have inspection, but the only emissions testing they do now is based on whether or not there's a CEL on in the dash. They used to use the sniffer to detect high exhaust gas levels, but they don't do it that way anymore.
"CEL eliminators" aka electrical tape...
If your running cats on both sides you shouldn't need CEL eliminators. If u run the front two before cats and rear after cats... thats the whole point behind the rear o2 sensors. They make sure the cats are doing thier jobs.
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If your running cats on both sides you shouldn't need CEL eliminators. If u run the front two before cats and rear after cats... thats the whole point behind the rear o2 sensors. They make sure the cats are doing thier jobs.
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Bringing my total to:
$838.30
Not too bad I guess, considering the cost of a full set of all 4 catalytic converters.
Am I forgetting anything? O2 sensors, right? How many would I need with this set up?
The DT headers comes with the EGR plug. You just need a 12mm Allen Wrench to screw it in. On the drivers side factory manifold you'll either have a hose or a giant bolt right in the top. If you have the bolt then you don't have the CA emissions package. And yeah, if you get direct fit secondary cats it'll be a bolt on affair.
Thanks for the replies everyone. So Prime, if I'm thinking correctly, I can get all those parts I linked, be it from a local source or online supplier, I can get OEM-style secondary cats instead of those high-flow cats, and it'll be a bolt-together system without the need for custom plumbing?
As far as I know I don't have the CA emissions package so I'd have to source a plug (how can I tell? VIN lookup? Door jamb sticker?) and it wouldn't hurt to install the CEL Eliminators to be sure I didn't throw a light.
I'd rather run cats than no cats, and being in Massachusetts I cannot have a CEL on when it's inspection time.
Am I seeing this correctly?
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Am I the only one thinking it? Get cel eliminators, delete all of the cats? Humor me, why do you want to run cats, it creates more pressure and costs you power....
Because I have to pass a state inspection and while they don't do a sniffer test, when they look under the truck and see no cats it's an automatic fail.
See responses in line. As I'm currently playing the same game.
Or from ORPP. Whichever has them in stock.
Instead go for the ones on bigdaddiesgarage.com. They're stainless steel and $20 cheaper overall.
Check the stealership for these. Can usually be had for the same or less money and no shipping time/cost.
AutoZone. FelPro. $18
Stealership again. I think I paid $28 for all of the studs and nuts.
Again. AutoZone. $3 each
Did you account for custom metal work to get those cats in there? You can buy straight hi flow cats for $60 each. But you still have to have the plumbing custom including a bung for an O2 sensor in the mid pipes. I ran into the same math and found it would be cheaper In the long run to get the pre-made PaceSetter mid pipes that had cats in them and just bolt the stuff together.
By going to the DT headers you are eliminating the first cat. So yous only be left with the ones in the mid pipes. Which may not do well enough on their own and cause a CEL (or MIL for Malfunction Indicated light). That's where the eliminators come in as an insurance against a light.
There are 4 O2 sensors. Two immediately before the first cat and two more in the mid pipes. Before you drop $180 more on replacing them, do the exhaust system and see if they even need replacing.
Also of note, the DT headers come with collector bolts to bolt to the mid pipes.
Pulling the studs and installing the new studs requires a female Torx socket. An 8mm is a close fit, but there us stripping danger. It took me 30 minutes at Sears to find the right tool. I didn't even know there was such a thing.
Also, if you don't have the CA emissions package, you'll need a 12mm Allen Wrench to install the EGR plug into the drivers side header. That was hard to find as well.
I plan to do a full writeup on installing g everything next weekend.