Fitting 33's on a stock 01

[The Chech]

Yes this is another thread about that but its okay this one has a happy ending (maybe)! Well I ordered Some bfg km2's 33x10.5x15 today along with the AC 3" lift but the tires get here sooner er I mean tomorrow morning lol. But anyways im gonna attempt to throw them on and run with them until the lift get heres next week some time. I will NOT be wheeling my X till that darn lift comes in :S, but I am in the process of trimming the metal thats in my way of fitting them along with a little hammering and some griding to make it all nice and smooth for the fitment tomorrow morrning ! oh and im cranking up the T-Bars a little more then they are now but that pesky winch and shrock works bumper might impede me on getting that extra lift out of the front to fit these bad boys! Was just wondering if this might be a bad idea doing all this before the lift even comes in and that im getting ahead of my self. but what I figured is that im going to have to trim some any ways why not trim it now and get it out of the way.

 

[Xtacular]

but what I figured is that im going to have to trim some any ways why not trim it now and get it out of the way.

Yep. The suspension lift only creates tire room sitting in the driveway. As soon as you compress the front suspension, like turning out of the tire shop's lot... the tire's going exactly where it was going to go, regardless of tbars and UCAs.

 

[The Chech]

Thats why im cutting quite a bit of metal out tonight.

 

[Xtacular]

Why not just do a body lift? It's 10x cheaper and it'll actually solve your problem.

 

[The Chech]

I've looked into one but that's gonna be a month or 2 before I get one after the lift is installed next week some time I just don't like the idea of my center of gravity being so high with all the sway bars being off

 

[Xtacular]

I've looked into one but that's gonna be a month or 2 before I get one after the lift is installed next week some time I just don't like the idea of my center of gravity being so high with all the sway bars being off

Your suspension lift is going to raise your COG WAY more than a body lift would. Think about what you're lifting with the SL- the motor, tranny, front diff, frame... all the heavy stuff, PLUS the body, which is the ONLY thing lifted with a body lift. Not only does the stuff you're lifting with the SL weigh WAY more than the stuff raised with a BL, you're going to be raising it all 3" compared to raising the body just 2".

 

[The Chech]

But with a sl I get more articulation and performance on trails then a bl and stock wheel travel. what I was trying to get at was the sl in conjunction with the bl is what scares me

 

[Xtacular]

I was looking at it from the perspective that you're trying to fit these tires, and you're taking a route that is 10x more expensive and does a horrible job of it, which will cause you to cut into your metal, and still spend a ton of money. And you said you are going to run the SL + BL within 2 months anyway. BTW, your rear articulation will be worse with the full SL than just a PML... AALs hurt articulation. And, granted you will gain a little travel in the front with the UCAs but it will be minor.

 

[The Chech]

The tires on the left off the car are 31's the one on the right on the car are 33's. at full turn half turn running some compression I have ZERO rub

 

[The Chech]

 

[drbandkgb]

Why you may not have rub has nothing to do with a SL.. If your running the factory back spacing rim your some what ok.. Your running a very narrow tire. The BL center of gravity stuff is all goofy.. You will have more cog issues with your tire up on the roof.. Tires are the number 1 mod on trails..
You picked a great one too.. Only thing I can suggest is if your cranking on your t-bars you better get an alignment do e.. Your camber will be off and you could screw up your new tires with out fixing it.

 

[The Chech]

That I do know and thats why I waited to crank them last and didn't have to and another thing that I also have that really helps is the life time alignment with fire stone so I can go to any of the 4 around me after I install the AC lift here soon. But about the tire on top it won't ever come down unless I get the rear tire carrier bumper. I've been through 3 spares because of rocks going through creeks and getting side wall damage on them so I learned my lesson with that when I had my 4runner years back. But I was really surprised I could fit them in with only minor trimming of the wheel well and plastics.

 

[granitex]

Fitting 33's with a suspension lift is not that bad at all, especially running a skinny 33. Go ahead and pull the plastic off of the front, I trimmed the fenders all of the way back to the cab corners, raise the shield over the fuel lines on the passenger side, and give a pinch seam in the drivers wheel well some love with a BFH so that is would lay flat. If you look at my build thread you will get a better idea of how mush ai removed.

I wanted to do have as little lift as possable while fitting a 33/12.5-15. The bump stop extention for the rear suspension is pretty important to keep the tire out of the fender opening. To say that I have been running this setup for a little while would be a vast understatement.

 

[xterror]

Do both. I've got the Rancho 2.5 and a 2" BL on the way. Just bought some 33 Duratracs...problem solved. Until you can get a body lift, expect some rubbing on the trails. Once you compress that tire you'll be tearing up that plastic mud guard...I took mine off.

 

[The Chech]

The plastic can be trimmed easily with a razor in which I have no problem doing I just wanted to keep the plastic on so the there is no spot where some thing looks like its missing. The rear I plan on trimming more so I can get the whole tire into the well with some flexing so I can get more out of it (hopefully). The only thing I might see in the future that I'll have to do once its higher and what not is extend those brake lines.

 

[midget]

Body lifts are a waste of money....so thank you for not doing that. Never once have i been in a spot & said " I really wish I had a body lift right now............"

 

[drbandkgb]

How can you say they are a waste of money?

I like the lift I gained from them.. That in its self was worth it to me..
80.00 isn't a lot of money.. From what I see in those pix there is no way your not rubbing when you turn and the body compresses.. ie going up or down hills.. I've down many BL's and in about every case you still end up trimming a little.

 

[yellowbug]

I am happy for getting my bl. I like the clearance it have me and 60 bucks shipped you can't beat it with a stick.

 

[Roadwarrior]

After seeing some 33 12.50 go on a truck last week, there is no way we could have put those on without the body lift. UNLESS you chopped your fenders like vraxy, at least 2 INCHES of cut metal. So take your pick, 2 inches taller, or 2 inches more of cut metal.

Sent from somewhere by something

 

[Big_THanks]

I am running 33x12.50x18s on mine and there is no way I could have without my BL. I have a pml and BL and still had to cut some just to keep from rubbing when turning. Now it just rubs a little when I stuff the tire.

 

[NMTerras]

I'm running slightly bigger than 33"s - 295-70r17s = about 33.4". I ran with just the SL for awhile, and worked ok, but I had to cut 2" of metal in the front to do it. Ended up doing a 1" BL (2" BL pucks cut down to 1") to accomodate my rears compressed on the trail (w my 4.47" backset, I was rubbing on the rear fenders). See my build thread for pics of how much I had to cut, and how the tires fit with and without the BL. I also rolled my rear fenders so that when I do rub, it doesnt damage the tires

Long story short, there is more than one way to skin this cat, and its not the same for everyone (depends on the width of your tire, wheel backset, how much cutting/trimming your comfortable with, etc.)

 

[midget]

Hell I had some 33x13.50 LTBs on my truck with a pml and sledgehammer lol course I dont worry about being "pretty" lol. It did rub once an awhile but for the most part I liked the setup. SO $60 I kept plus however much the sl costs...... meh Im ok with a little less metal its just less for me to dent or bend later.

 

[drbandkgb]

Everyone has a way.. All depends on how bad do you want it

 

[The Chech]

Well I can say after doing the 3" lift and at full compression both front and rear I've had no rub at all. I've had the truck on 3 wheels more times then I can count blown a torsion bar adjustment anchor messed up my center link and damaged one of my front wheels bearings. But all in all no rubbing and no damage to any tire as of yet. I have trimmed the plastic mud guards enough they wont touch the tire but as metal trimming I've only hit the pitch seems back flat. The only reasoning I can tell from it is the back spacing of the Cragar soft 8's