Tyre Beads/ BB's/ Airsoft Pellets Etc - Tire balancing

AngelSpeedFreak

Bought an X
Location
New Mexico
So, After doing a bit of research today, I am finding on a few forums that people are having good luck balancing tough tires using BB's or tyre Beads, etc. Anyone here have experience with this? I had never heard of it before, but I am pretty new to this world. I think I may buy some of the Tyre Beads to see if it might help with my wobble/ shake/ death is eminent/ problem.

Any thoughts or experiences?

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metzican

Suspension Lift
Location
Lafaytte, la
I have read a lot about it and have highly considered it. Sounds like it works great. I just don't know how much is to much or to little since I don't want to pay for overpriced balls.
 

AngelSpeedFreak

Bought an X
Location
New Mexico
There is a calculator somewhere for tire sizes. Looks like for my 35x15.5x15's I would need 10oz per tire. Think I will give it a try. Most people say to just use BB's but then you have to break the bead on the tire and re-seat. The Trye beads (also a few other companies) are smaller and you can fill through the valve stem. Some people say that Antifreeze and water also works good, but I just dont know about having liquid in the tires.
 

Airmapper

First Fill-Up (of many)
I don't think these are going to help with any shaking issues that normal balancing has not been able to correct. This method seems to only come into it's element with extreme tires, 35" MT's might be extreme enough, but even there I wouldn't be running Dynabeasd, I'd be using something like high density airsoft pellets.

These things have their downsides, and that is why you mostly hear of it being used in very large tires. I've only heard of them being regularly used on commercial truck and RV tires as a common application. Off road tires is kind of an offshoot where it found a use for people who's needs on road were limited and tradeoffs were acceptable. I've heard that the more sand like substances can do weird stuff like clump up, freeze in cold weather from condensation inside the tire, and other stuff that results in you ka'thumping down the road with no easy way to fix it. Not to mention clogging up valve stems, and if you have TPMS, forget it.

If your tire and wheel combos have been properly balanced using traditional methods (clip on and/or tap on weights) and you are still experiencing shaking, you probably have a suspension problem.
 

Airmapper

First Fill-Up (of many)
Be sure and post your results, I'd be very interested in how it works.

It should help balancing, but I still think a normal balance with clip on or tape on weights should be done.Basically they will help make up the difference where normal weights can't fine tune on big lumpy tires. Beads do help with rotational balance, but they don't do much for the inboard/outboard balance of the tire. That is why you find weights on both sides of a wheel (or on some newer wheels, on the interior side of the wheel opening, and the inboard side bead.)
 

Prime

Shut up Baby, I know it!
Admin
Location
Denver Adjacent
Non radial tires in that size are a good candidate for beads from what I've looked into it. Give it a shot. Couldn't hurt.
 

granitex

Skid Plates
Founding Member
Location
Columbus OH
Bias tires also get flat spots from sitting, it works out when you drive them for a bit but it will be noticeable. I know a couple of people who have run the beads with really good success.

Also remember that you have a lot more sidewall flexing than you are used to.
 

AngelSpeedFreak

Bought an X
Location
New Mexico
I got some Dyna Beads today and put in 10oz per tire as insturcted on thier website for my size tires. Took a lot longer than I thought through the valve stem but I guess thats why they suggest breaking the bead and pouring in...

I know there are probably not many people on here using off road tires like super swampers, but I must say thee helped a lot. Id say about 75-85% of my shake, wobble, etc is now gone. I am very impressed as it just seems to have worked to balance out these hard to ballance tires. My way to work this morning was a 2 hands on the stearing wheel, white knuckle experiance. Drive home, was 1 hand on the wheel, looking down at the odometer to see the fastest I have driven the X since I bought it (60mph).

If anyone has a balance problem, I must say these did help me out a lot. Everything I read on other forums said the same.


 

TJTJ

Skid Plates
Founding Member
Location
NJ
Its a fairly well proven concept.

Its not as effective as simply getting a good balance, etc...but, for a trailer queen or a rig that does a lot of off roading where the weights get knocked off, etc....its great to either supplement the weights or replace them if your speeds are reasonable, etc.

It does increase your rolling resistance, etc, but the resistance of my LTB's for example was significant enough that its like worrying about the wind resistance and mpg hit of a flag flying from an army tank.

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