Who has CCP and willing to tell about it?

[bdp07]

I never really worry about it. I carry my 1911 "cocked and locked" all the time. Safety is always on, I guess I don't worry about it because a 1911 has two safety features.

I pick from one of the three to carry daily. The middle one is my newest S&W Pro series 5inch

 

[dhyde79]

1911 has a safety lever and it's hammer fired, when holstering you can keep a thumb on it, or, have decocked it if you prefer...on an xd, you can't decocked, and it's two safeties are grip and trigger...trigger can get caught so, if you're holstering with the grip safety depressed, the pistol can be fired...hence my question was "aimed" at those who use that style of pistol...

 

[Diadaga]

I have yet to carry concealed but with open carry I've done it and no I don't worry about it. My S&W doesn't have a grip safety it's all trigger, so when I holster it I just take the extra second to pay attention to what I'm doing.

 

[jmnielsen]

As long as there isn't a finger on the trigger, a gun won't go off. When I get my glock it will always be holstered when loaded, or in a case unloaded.

 

[dhyde79]

As long as there isn't a finger on the trigger, a gun won't go off. When I get my glock it will always be holstered when loaded, or in a case unloaded.

The worry they bring up is that if your holster catches the trigger, it can go bang if there's one in the chamber. I prefer to keep one in the chamber but not have it cocked, but, on the striker fired, that's not an option, you either have an empty chamber, or a live trigger...

 

[tommyboy]

Good consistent technique and a good holster you will be fine.

1.) Always index you trigger finger unless you are about to destroy something/someone.

2.) get a good holster that can not collapse on you when your weapon is drawn.

 

[dhyde79]

Good consistent technique and a good holster you will be fine.

1.) Always index you trigger finger unless you are about to destroy something/someone.

2.) get a good holster that can not collapse on you when your weapon is drawn.

Agreed, on #1 I typically rest my finger on the slide above the trigger, I may have to start resting my finger at the front of the guard instead of above the trigger...

#2, I generally do, I prefer the hard kydex ones, but, I have one with a snap retention flap that wants to try to poke into the path of the trigger guard

 

[NismoFire]

Question for you guys concealed carrying glocks or other striker fired pistols, how worried about an accidental discharge are you?

I read a couple of articles talking about some way of holstering non-hammered pistols, because if you're chambered you can accidentally fire while holstering...

My worry comes up because I'm sending my Taurus back and exchanging it for either an xd or xdm, and the loss of the hammer/change to the striker fired, no physical safety slightly worries me...

Trigger finger discipline. Plain and simple. That's what Tex Grubner shot himself in the leg with a Blackhawk holster....dumb@$$ put his finger on the trigger before he had his pistol pointed downrange. He had/has poor trigger finger discipline.


All I've ever carried is striker-fired, and I've drawn/re-holstered MANY times (work).


My M&P has a safety on it, and I'm about ready to remove it because I can't find a duty holster that will fit it with the safety.




When I first got my XD, I was kinda nervous about it too, until I sucked it up and threw it on the ground a few times with a full mag (racked the slide, but without a round in the chamber) and the striker never moved until I pulled the trigger. After that, I was okay with it.

 

[Diadaga]

Because you can't have a discussion about trigger safety without it.

 

[RacerXXL]

Agreed, on #1 I typically rest my finger on the slide above the trigger, I may have to start resting my finger at the front of the guard instead of above the trigger...

#2, I generally do, I prefer the hard kydex ones, but, I have one with a snap retention flap that wants to try to poke into the path of the trigger guard

With a striker fired pistol see if the flap is is small enough to fit in the trigger guard and engage the trigger if so ditch it. Me I would not use anything with a thumb strap/snap on any striker fired pistol I carried. If for some reason you need a retention holster go look at Safariland holsters with either the ALS or SLS systems for a striker fired pistol.

 

[dhyde79]

Ok, so, in surfing about, and curiosity filling, I found "concealedcarryacademy.com" they let you do a 2hr total course that counts as your ccw instruction for both Arizona and Virginia. Couple it with a killer deal on getting the course at a nice discount, I'm considering it. AZ's ccw is accepted in every state that I care to worry about, so, what do ya'll think? Full ccw between permit and class for less than $100? Sound fishy? Or should I jump on the deal while it's hot?

 

[NismoFire]

Ok, so, in surfing about, and curiosity filling, I found "concealedcarryacademy.com" they let you do a 2hr total course that counts as your ccw instruction for both Arizona and Virginia. Couple it with a killer deal on getting the course at a nice discount, I'm considering it. AZ's ccw is accepted in every state that I care to worry about, so, what do ya'll think? Full ccw between permit and class for less than $100? Sound fishy? Or should I jump on the deal while it's hot?

Check for residency reqs. TN doesn't accept VA's unless you're a VA resident.

 

[dhyde79]

Hmm...good call....I'll be going for the AZ one, but, that's an important point to consider...

 

[dhyde79]

Check for residency reqs. TN doesn't accept VA's unless you're a VA resident.

Looks like most states are dumping reciprocity with va and Az because of stuff like this...

 

[NismoFire]

Yep. TN also will not accept online classes.

 

[jmnielsen]

Some states require range time for qualification as well so an online class would not suffice.

 

[NismoFire]

Yep. TN also will not accept online classes.

Some states require range time for qualification as well so an online class would not suffice.

That's why. We require 4hrs class and 4hrs range time.

 

[dhyde79]

Some states require range time for qualification as well so an online class would not suffice.

Most require some form of firing test, I think the online stuff is why those two states are losing all of their reciprocity...

 

[dhyde79]

Ok, getting my CHL finally, need a holster for a 5" XD40....must be complete concealment, no imprinting allowed.

Suggestions/recommendations: go!

(Oh, and I've already looked at blueridge and crossbreed)

 

[Slasa]

TT Gunleather is awesome. So awesome there is a long lead time but worth it. I have the Slim XC for my HK's. I really like SHTF for hybrid holsters and they are quick, too.

 

[Acasper708]

I don't have my CC permit yet since I'm in IL. Gonna happen within the next year and a half hopefully.
I'm ready though. I got a Kahr CW45 with Kohlster IWB

 

[Acasper708]

Im still thinking bersa 380..

Did you get one yet?
I'm thinkin of the thunder CC 380 for a pocket pistol and for my wife. I've heard nothing but good things about Bersa even though they are cheap.

 

[Pro-2X]

Bersa makes a good product in my experience. It's not a go to the range and fire 1000 rounds type, but if you take of it it will do the same for you when you need it to.

 

[Prime]

I used to own a Thunder .380. It was a great little gun. The size made for a really snappy recoil and that sucka was LOUD. But a great gun overall.

 

[GPD605X]

Well, MS just passed their Open Carry Law. Allows anyone without felony convictions to walk around strapped as long as its not concealed in any way. I have a SW Sigma 40 and I'm thinking about openly carrying it. I just need to get a better holster. I have a Fobus Paddle Holster but the gun easily goes in/out of the holster. I would like something a little more secure. I've been searching and searching for a better holster.

 

[Prime]

VA is an open carry state. But honestly, I feel like all it does is attract attention when you do it. And we have a lot of people who do it just because they can and make a stink about it when someone says something to them. There was this whole ordeal on a city bus one time that I'm convinced the guy who was carrying was doing it just to get into an ordeal with someone about the fact that they have a gun.

If I carry, it's concealed.

 

[Maxterra]

VA is an open carry state. But honestly, I feel like all it does is attract attention when you do it. And we have a lot of people who do it just because they can and make a stink about it when someone says something to them. There was this whole ordeal on a city bus one time that I'm convinced the guy who was carrying was doing it just to get into an ordeal with someone about the fact that they have a gun.

If I carry, it's concealed.

My opinion as well. Always concealed.

 

[Diadaga]

VA is an open carry state. But honestly, I feel like all it does is attract attention when you do it. And we have a lot of people who do it just because they can and make a stink about it when someone says something to them. There was this whole ordeal on a city bus one time that I'm convinced the guy who was carrying was doing it just to get into an ordeal with someone about the fact that they have a gun.

If I carry, it's concealed.

I open carry sometimes depends on what I'm wearing. Although I haven't had that many issues when I open carry. Sad part is it's usually with store managers that don't even know their own corporate policies.

 

[dhyde79]

VA is an open carry state. But honestly, I feel like all it does is attract attention when you do it. And we have a lot of people who do it just because they can and make a stink about it when someone says something to them. There was this whole ordeal on a city bus one time that I'm convinced the guy who was carrying was doing it just to get into an ordeal with someone about the fact that they have a gun.

If I carry, it's concealed.

I would agree, however I'm also a firm believer in standing up for your freedoms and rights. If you don't, they may not remain yours to enjoy.

If you feel that open carry draws undesirable attention, don't OC, but, if someone else is, and is being given crap about it, stand up WITH THEM and educate those throwing a fit on the laws and rights, don't get heated, and don't let the discussion get heated either. Every person with a firearm in general needs to stand together and defend our rights, stand up for each other, and don't **ever** treat someone like an "attention whore" because they're exercising their rights in a different way than you.

 

[Prime]

I agree with that 100%. If I was ever in the presence of someone who was being hassled while abiding by the law I would absolutely stand with them. That being said, the one guy that I mentioned earlier admitted that he wanted to open carry on a city bus because he knew it would attract attention.

 

[dhyde79]

I agree with that 100%. If I was ever in the presence of someone who was being hassled while abiding by the law I would absolutely stand with them. That being said, the one guy that I mentioned earlier admitted that he wanted to open carry on a city bus because he knew it would attract attention.

On one hand, I'd be bothered, on the other, I'd do the same, except, when I do something like that to make a statement, I always have the appropriate legal paperwork printed and on me at all times...I simply hand a copy over and say "thank you for your concern, however, I've taken the time to ensure that I'm conducting myself within my rights as provided by the laws and penal codes."

Then go on carrying on about my business.

 

[AZhiAZiAM]

So I got my ccw and I've shot numerous guns, I've narrowed it down to three glock 26 or the 30 and or the sa/da p2000sk. I love as/da for some reason and I shoot about the same with each with 45 and 9. Anyone have critiques about the guns. Right now I'm leaning towards the hk but j can get the glock for about a quarter of the price.

 

[dhyde79]

So I got my ccw and I've shot numerous guns, I've narrowed it down to three glock 26 or the 30 and or the sa/da p2000sk. I love as/da for some reason and I shoot about the same with each with 45 and 9. Anyone have critiques about the guns. Right now I'm leaning towards the hk but j can get the glock for about a quarter of the price.

I'm EXTREMELY anti-glock, especially for concealed carry...if you want something small and compact, look at the xds, or, if 9mm is ok, the Taurus PT111 G2...bought the wife one and we both are quite happy with it...

 

[Slasa]

So I got my ccw and I've shot numerous guns, I've narrowed it down to three glock 26 or the 30 and or the sa/da p2000sk. I love as/da for some reason and I shoot about the same with each with 45 and 9. Anyone have critiques about the guns. Right now I'm leaning towards the hk but j can get the glock for about a quarter of the price.

I've told you about my preference for HK's. Have you shot all three? I dislike glocks, too. I prefer to carry my p2000sk 9mm over my others because it is a good shooter and great to conceal. It is not my favorite to shoot, though. Not bad but bigger guns shoot better. Aka - my HK45c.(almost as easy to conceal - just heavier)
Still, I love the DA/SA w/ decocker, no safety of my p2ksk. I'm still accurate enough. Reliable, too.

 

[Golf286]

I've told you about my preference for HK's. Have you shot all three? I dislike glocks, too. I prefer to carry my p2000sk 9mm over my others because it is a good shooter and great to conceal. It is not my favorite to shoot, though. Not bad but bigger guns shoot better. Aka - my HK45c.(almost as easy to conceal - just heavier) Still, I love the DA/SA w/ decocker, no safety of my p2ksk. I'm still accurate enough. Reliable, too.

I agree with Slas in regards to the Glock. I've shot the HK and it was nice I prefer the Springfield XDM's but I also like my Kimber TLE RL..

 

[dhyde79]

My dislike of glock is twofold. One: the feel horribly janky to me with their non-ergonomic and terrible grip angles. Two: no safety but trigger safety. Don't give me the textbook "your trigger finger is the only safety you need" bullsh¡t either. Any other gun has at least one more feature to keep you from shooting yourself or someone else in the event of the trigger catching on something as you holster it. I've seen more cases of glocks and "accidental discharge" while being holstered than any other gun. You want a glock for non-concealed, fine, but not for concealed...

 

[dhyde79]

I agree with Slas in regards to the Glock. I've shot the HK and it was nice I prefer the Springfield XDM's but I also like my Kimber TLE RL..

Like the XDm, and XD, as far as Kimber....I have a very hard time justifying their steep price for not a lot more quality lately. I'd argue that their quality isn't worth the price difference between their guns new para's. As far as that goes however, 1911/2011 brands are all preference. If you like Kimber and wanna go that route, by all means. I'm quite happy with my 15rds of .45 in my 1911

 

[Golf286]

Not disagreeing about the price of a Kimber, that being said I didn't pay retail (not even close) I like the Para and the Rock island isn't bad either..

 

[dhyde79]

Not disagreeing about the price of a Kimber, that being said I didn't pay retail (not even close) I like the Para and the Rock island isn't bad either..

A good deal is always handy

The only reason I mentioned it is cause we just had that discussion today...Kimber is becoming to guns what sony has become with home audio...selling on name reputation alone, regardless of quality (actually, from what I hear, that's pretty much glock too with their new generations)

 

[Golf286]

Yeh, completely agree, it's to bad because it wasn't that way not to long ago.. They used to make a quality product and quite honestly I wouldn't buy one now.