Rear Spring Replacement Options...

caseycamby · Feb 25, 2016

Guys I need some help. I have some saggy springs.

What do you think would be my best way to go about this? Right now I have the OEM springs (minus the overload), AC 3 pack AAL, and revolver shackles.

Option 1: Order new OEM replacement springs, swap those out and put it back just like it is.

Option 2: Order an all new spring pack, most likely, Alcans. This is probably the best option but also the most expensive.

Option 3: SOA. If I did do this, what would be my best way to go about it? Order the OEM replacement springs and just swap those over? I'd like to keep it right at my height now or a little less. I have a buddy who runs a local fab shop that can help me out with everything.
If I were to go SOA, what combo would I need to keep around my same height?

I believe that's it for now... I'm sure more questions will arise haha thanks guys!

kirk · Feb 25, 2016

I have this exact same issue. Irritating really. I vote option 1 if you are happy the way it is. IF the budget allows it, and you wanted to anyway, its a good time for upgrades.

NMTerras · Feb 25, 2016

I actually had good luck with re-arching mine on Terra. But then I sold her, so not sure how they held up long term. But it was like night and day after I had it done.

Bklyn.X · Feb 25, 2016

I vote order two heavy duty rear leaf spring from HERE. When you get them pull the old set off the truck and take them apart. Take apart the new set. Ditch the overload (again), add your “AC 3 pack AAL, and revolver shackles” to the new set. Put them on the truck using new u-bolts.

SRStaff · Feb 25, 2016

What Bklyn.X said. The HD he linked gave a stock X a slight lift. With your rear bumper/tire carrier plus heave wheel and tire hanging back there; most of that weight should balance it out. You still have the revolvers to let the rear articulate just fine.

caseycamby · Feb 25, 2016

Bklyn.X said:
I vote order two heavy duty rear leaf spring from HERE. When you get them pull the old set off the truck and take them apart. Take apart the new set. Ditch the overload (again), add your “AC 3 pack AAL, and revolver shackles” to the new set. Put them on the truck using new u-bolts.

Yeah that's not a bad idea. Maybe even take the smallest leaf spring out to level it up. It would be a cheaper and less invasive, as well.

Edodrian · Feb 26, 2016

I went SOA. Just remember if you go SOA you will experience axle wrap.

I am thinking about going with something like the Calmini set but I'm just so torn what way to go. I'd like to see which way you chose.

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caseycamby · Feb 27, 2016

Edodrian said:
I went SOA. Just remember if you go SOA you will experience axle wrap.

I am thinking about going with something like the Calmini set but I'm just so torn what way to go. I'd like to see which way you chose.

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I'd really like to try this. I'm just concerned about getting TOO MUCH lift in the rear.

I've already talked with my fab guy and he said he could weld in some traction bars to help with that.

SRStaff · Feb 27, 2016

If you go SOA you just pitch the AAL. Axle tube diameter will make up for the AAL.

caseycamby · Feb 27, 2016

SRStaff said:
If you go SOA you just pitch the AAL. Axle tube diameter will make up for the AAL.

That's what I'm thinking. Maybe run JUST what bklyn.X linked SOA and then fine tune it with the shackles I decide to run.

TheFauxFox · Feb 27, 2016

Edodrian said:
I went SOA. Just remember if you go SOA you will experience axle wrap.

I am thinking about going with something like the Calmini set but I'm just so torn what way to go. I'd like to see which way you chose.

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Build a anti-wrap bar. Its like building a radius arm.

caseycamby · Mar 1, 2016

Any more opinions or insight? It's all appreciated!

granitex · Mar 5, 2016

A few of us are running a bastard pack built with firsr and second gen springs with a couple AAL thrown in for good measure

caseycamby · Mar 6, 2016

granitex said:
A few of us are running a bastard pack built with firsr and second gen springs with a couple AAL thrown in for good measure

Me and my buddy were talking about this. I've been doing some research and saw where some 60-70ish Chevy springs will work too? A local junkyard has a set of 72 C10 springs for $45. I don't see why that wouldn't work.

caseycamby · Apr 5, 2016

Someone tell me why this would be a bad idea for SOA, minus the overload leaf, of course.. LINKY

xterror04 · Apr 6, 2016

New leafs and soa will be 5+ inches of lift on stock shackles

caseycamby · Apr 6, 2016

xterror04 said:
New leafs and soa will be 5+ inches of lift on stock shackles

Oh really? Completely stock setup, just SOA?

That's my fear right now. Going SOA and getting TOO much lift.

Jbat · Apr 7, 2016

Im running stock springs with Calmini shackles with SOA. I also got a anti-wrap bar kit from Ruff Stuff specialties to keep the springs from wrapping

caseycamby · Apr 7, 2016

Jbat said:
Im running stock springs with Calmini shackles with SOA. I also got a anti-wrap bar kit from Ruff Stuff specialties to keep the springs from wrapping

Don't you have quite a bit more lift than I do?

SRStaff · Apr 7, 2016

xterror04 said:
New leafs and soa will be 5+ inches of lift on stock shackles

Stock springs plus stock shackles give you stock height. Axle tube is roughly 3". OEM spring perch is in the ball park of 3/4" that equals roughly 3 3/4" just doing SOA. If you have a fab guy that knows what he is doing; he can get the spring perch a little closer. Have a bad fab guy; he will make it taller for no reason at all. Perch just needs enough room for the center pin to go through.

SRStaff · Apr 7, 2016

caseycamby said:
Me and my buddy were talking about this. I've been doing some research and saw where some 60-70ish Chevy springs will work too? A local junkyard has a set of 72 C10 springs for $45. I don't see why that wouldn't work.

Xterra springs are 2 3/8" wide. Chevrolet springs are 2.5" wide.

caseycamby · Apr 7, 2016

Thanks for the info! I have good trust in my fab guy. He knows what he's doing from what I can tell.

SRStaff · Apr 7, 2016

That last factor I did not add is the spring pack thickness. Depends on what you get. They will also add to the total lift amount when setup as SOA. One of the reasons for Casper running JY OEM springs. They have already sagged so the free arch does not have as much affect on lift. OEM spring packs range from 1 7/16 to 1 13/16" thickness. Granted, that is with the OL leaf in the pack. Pitch that and it thins out the pack a good bit. Also why I mentioned to tuck the spring perch closer.

Jbat · Apr 7, 2016

caseycamby said:
Don't you have quite a bit more lift than I do?

I probably have a solid 6 inches

SRStaff said:
Stock springs plus stock shackles give you stock height. Axle tube is roughly 3". OEM spring perch is in the ball park of 3/4" that equals roughly 3 3/4" just doing SOA. If you have a fab guy that knows what he is doing; he can get the spring perch a little closer. Have a bad fab guy; he will make it taller for no reason at all. Perch just needs enough room for the center pin to go through.

Edit...NVM-I see you have already addressed this.

Spring pack will also affect height because now you are placing the bottom of the spring pack on the axle not the top.

SRStaff · Apr 8, 2016

100% correct Jbat. Traditional shackles also work better with SOA also. Able to move the shackle hanger around so your can get the shackle to lay down during compression. Personally like to get as much stuffage I can without inverting springs and not having to touch the OEM bumpstops. Alcan and Deaver packs get thick quick compared to OEM.

caseycamby · Apr 8, 2016

Thanks so much for the advice guys. I believe I've decided I'm gonna try and go for it and see what happens.

Stay hanging around because I'm sure I'm gonna have more questions haha

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