Calmini vs AC UCA's

drbandkgb

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Im about to buy some upper control arms and Im trying to get a feel for what is better.

The Calmini's look beefy.. The AC UCA dont look bad either..
I think down the road ill end up with the Calmini steering up grade. Just looking for idea's

Any pro's or con's?
 

granitex

Skid Plates
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Columbus OH
I have AC UCA's just because I got them used at a great deal, The real differences between the two are nominal and for me would come down to price and current stock. Whoever could get them to me the cheapest and fastest would get the business.

I have had really good luck with both companies (Calmini steering, AAL, and shackles)(AC UCA's)
 

xterror04

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Carlisle, Iowa
Id find out what ball joints they each use...for calmini's do you need to order a new one from them? I beleive ac's have a moog joint that can be bought at any auto parts store
 

drbandkgb

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2000-2004 X395terra 2WD with V-6 engine


  • Front 3" suspension lift includes:
    1. Chromally tubular upper control arms
      • These control arms are made longer than stock arms to provide actual lift while maintaining proper ball joint angles
      • This lift keeps CVs well within manufacturer's specifications
      • Chromally tubing, long used by the racing industry, is lightweight yet stronger than steel plate
      • Designed to give a true 3" of lift and provide additional wheel travel
      • Aligns easily into manufacturer's specifications
    2. Greasable ball joints
    3. Polyurethane bushings
    4. sleeves
    5. 6 Zerk fittings
      • The zerk fittings help to eliminate annoying squeak from bushings and increase life of upper balljoints and bushings
      • 4-zerks for the upper control arms and 2-zerks for the ball joints included
    6. Hardware
    7. Complete installation instructions
  • Zerk fittings not shown

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These perfectly designed upper control arms are built to be used with the 3" suspension system and will allow for perfect alignment every time. The CALMINI arms are precision laser cut from 3/8" plate steel and will last longer than the life of the truck! These are the strongest and most durable arms available for your Xterra...accept no substitutes or imitations. The complete kit comes with the pair of upper control arms with integrated bump stop pads, eight(8) Vecton bushings, four(4) machined sleeves, and two(2) new upper ball joints with complete mounting hardware. These are the only arms to use if you wheel your ride
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RacerXXL

First Fill-Up (of many)
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North Alabama
Do you have a source on the Cam bolts?

Nissan? :p The UCA's are held in place by a pair of bolts, two a side, that are in eccentric washers and have a nut on the end. They tend to be frozen in the UCA's both of mine required a sawzall to remove.
 
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granitex

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Columbus OH
Courtesy Nissan would be my first choice on-line, but I also get the employee pricing at a local dealership so I would also go there.
 

Ricel

Wheeling
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Location
Rhode Island
Doing the AC setup Friday! I like the look of the AC's, the tube look appeals to me. Plus the blue powder coatings going to fall off and or a pita to paint later.
 

granitex

Skid Plates
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Location
Columbus OH
You are going to keep the lift shackles that you already are using, the AAL just adds the rest of the 1.5 inches that you will get from the new a-arms.

And from a previous post, both AC and Calmini have zerks.
 
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ryandavenport

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Tom, Luke and I are experts at seized cambolts. That also on a truck with only 100000 miles too. Yours has like 200k something right? Lol
 

drbandkgb

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You are going to keep the lift shackles that you already are using, the AAL just adds the rest of the 1.5 inches that you will get from the new a-arms.

And from a previous post, both AC and Calmini have zerks.
Everyone I have see do the 3 pack AAL end up pulling the lift shackles.. RacerXXL did I know so did Mirage..
 

Timrich

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Central FL
I say slap them on with the AC shackles and see where you sit. Then if you need to swap them out. The leafs may settle a bit after you drive around with them on. Plus you have some extra weight in the back with your bumper.
 

drbandkgb

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That's a good point about the bumper


Sent from my underground bunker in the middle of my mind
 

RacerXXL

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North Alabama
You are going to keep the lift shackles that you already are using, the AAL just adds the rest of the 1.5 inches that you will get from the new a-arms.

And from a previous post, both AC and Calmini have zerks.

Everyone I have see do the 3 pack AAL end up pulling the lift shackles.. RacerXXL did I know so did Mirage..

....and Badbet and a few others. I don't know if they changed something or not but there is no way, no how that you can run the 3 pack and the std. lift shackles as the 3 pack will generate 3" all by itself. I wanted to run revolvers all along anyway so it worked out for me.

As far as settling everyone keeps saying that but mine has not settled one bit and I keep all my gear in the rear trying to get the thing to settle just a little bit. So far it has not settled at all.
 

xterror

Bought an X
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I looked all over for cam bolts, either you buy them online and wait 4 days for them to arrive, or you go to a Nissan dealership like I did and pay $20 per bolt, but get em that day obviously.
 

TJTJ

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NJ
I'd rather have shackles that add wheel travel than AAL that stiffen the pack, if I was going to just have one or the other...

It looks to me that over the years, AC has upped the sizes on some stuff. The 6" Shackles are now ~ 6.75" when people measure them, the 3-pack that gave 1.5" is now giving 3", etc...like its parts for a heavier/larger truck.

The HD shocks that they use for the lifts are just OEM spec'd shocks meant for larger heavier trucks, and so forth....which works....but is part of a trend there.

Anyway...if the AAL give 3", they MUST be stiff to support the same weight with less bowing...and that means Revolver Shackles instead of OEM shackles are making more sense.

Since the Revolvers don't add much lift like a regular lift shackle, but restore all the lost travel and then some...plus, smooth out the ride to compensate for the stiffer leaf packs...they look to be a good match to the 3" 3-packs.


That was somewhat how I ended up with my Revolvers...I carry a crap load of equipment into the boonies...on the truck scales I was ~ 6k lb...so I went from a Calmini 2-pack and Calmini Shackles, to adding a Deaver 3-pack (What AC uses) to the Calmini and stock leaves, interspersing them to make one thicker/stiffer, yet progressive leaf pack, and then replacing the Cal shackles with the Revolvers.

So, I had TWO AAL kits on, for a total lift of ~ 3", and then the Revolvers to get the travel back.

:D
 

Ricel

Wheeling
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Rhode Island
Following your route TJ. This winter ill replace the stock ones with the revolvers after i just replaced my AC shackles with a 3pack.
 

TJTJ

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NJ
The funny thing about the Revolvers, is that they open up a lot of possibilities for taking the travel a bit further with each option....its like a slippery slope.


Kind of like when they call marijuana a "gateway drug", and a PML is a "gateway mod"....

:D



I ran Bil 5100's with them, and it was good, but could never get them fully open, so I knew I could get MORE...

...and I ran that way for quite a while...but, my Revolvers were STILL not fully open, calling to me, like a siren song.......

..So I swapped the 10" travel 5100's for bigger Bil 7100's....which was BETTER...but, the Revolvers were STILL not fully open, so, I knew i could get MORE...

...So I also I added the UB Skidderz, which raise the lower shock mount further from the rocks, but also allowed more downtravel...which was BETTER....

...but NOW the cross member was blocking the rear drive shaft from drooping fully, so, I had to gulley out the cross member to make a place for the drive shaft to droop down into...

...but, the raised lower shock mount meant I had LESS ROOM for COMPRESSION, and, coming down off ledges, etc, when I was crashing the bump stops, I was also over compressing the longer 7100's (Which were OK before the UB Skidderz...)....

...So, I broke both 7100's eventually from over compression....as well as breaking off the mounts from the UB Skidderz....and ended up running with NO rear shocks for a while...which was actually not a problem on the road, as the Revolvers smoothed things out so much, you wouldn't know I had no rear shocks..

...BUT, off road, especially on whoop de doo's, rock gardens, etc...I would pogo the rear end like crazy, as I'd be slamming down with no damping, and then bouncing back up, crashing back down, etc....my wife said it gave her shaken baby syndrome.

...So...To be able at this point to be able to both have full up travel, AND full down travel, I could not use the current shock mounts, and going to the too-low-to-the-rocks OEM point again was not going to work for me...


...So...I had to put an upper shock mount bar between the frame rails, and lower mounts on the axle itself, and make a new shock set-up with better geometry....and mounted some long travel Bil 5150's, which is what I have now, and life is good.

The nice thing is that if I didn't want to go through all of that, I didn't HAVE to...I could have had much better articulation and ride than the Calmini and SLR kits, and called it a day with just the Revolvers and 5100's, etc...as even a partially open Revolver with 5100's allows more travel than either of those kits, etc.

:D
 

Lucky_lefty

Bought an X
Founding Member
Location
IL
I am glad this is here. I have the lift shackles and I cranked the t-bars. I plan on getting new t bars and cranking them and new UCA along with aal. I am trying to find the best quality and a decent price. I thought they were all the same just a different name.
 

TKDx00

Lockers Installed
Founding Member
Umm correction, you only need one kit ( 4 bolts, 4 nuts and 4 washers ) to do both sides.

OK, Obviously I know nothing about this. :confuseded: So I'm guessing I mistook the 4 bolt holes surrounding the BJ location is NOT where the CAM BOLTS go. Thanks for the clearification.
 

TKDx00

Lockers Installed
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DAAAAAGGGGGG!!!!!! let a person make 1 lil misunderstanding known and EVERYONE gotta point out the mistake BHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!

Move along folks nothing more to add to this thread... :D
 

AZhiAZiAM

Suspension Lift
Location
Fresno,CA
so finishing up my front end lift. do i need to order bump stops or are the stock ones efficient enough? i know i need cam bolts, but anything else?
 

Jmac289gt

Sliders
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Location
Dickinson, TX
I still have my factory bump stops and camber bolts, but we don't have snow down here to need salt on the streets that rust our undercarriage up.
 
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