Pro-2X
Suspension Lift
- Location
- Rockmart, GA
I don't think I will ever put a transfer case skid on TITANic. Just seems unnecessary.
Gorillamel's X- Interceptor Edition
- Thread starter gorillamel
- Start date
- Location
- Idaho!
^Each to their own. I wheel my X weekly and I wheel it hard. Thus my decision to make sure it is as well protected as possible.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking, too. I think the impact that busted that piece off jarred some of the gears a bit since the X transitions a bit differently than before. I cannot rightly explain it, but the X "feels" different sometimes.
Bought a used Shrock T-case skid today off someone on TNX for less than a new one not shipped. Win!! Now to find a used engine skid. Hmmm...
Yeah, that's what I was thinking, too. I think the impact that busted that piece off jarred some of the gears a bit since the X transitions a bit differently than before. I cannot rightly explain it, but the X "feels" different sometimes.
Bought a used Shrock T-case skid today off someone on TNX for less than a new one not shipped. Win!! Now to find a used engine skid. Hmmm...
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Pro-2X
Suspension Lift
- Location
- Rockmart, GA
Twas but a joke. I have no transfer case.
Pro-2X
Suspension Lift
- Location
- Rockmart, GA
I actually made skids for myself out of 3/16 590 tensile strength steel.
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- Location
- Idaho!
Ah ha, a good joke indeed. I am blonde and thus, sometimes my ignorance of the obvious can make my derr moments stand out more. 2WD = no t-case. I get it now. Duh. 
- Location
- Smyrna, TN
Ah ha, a good joke indeed. I am blonde and thus, sometimes my ignorance of the obvious can make my derr moments stand out more. 2WD = no t-case. I get it now. Duh.
Psh, don't eat that one Mel. He's an arse sometimes.
It's all P2x, I promise.
Pro-2X
Suspension Lift
- Location
- Rockmart, GA
I like to think I am an arse all the time.
- Location
- Smyrna, TN
- Location
- Idaho!
It's on hold. I'm still single. Alas. Have not found anyone worthy to assist me with the project.
- Location
- Amarillo, TX
Super secret mod = carseat mod huh? Lol
- Location
- Idaho!
^Ha, no. Something FAR different than that. Something I doubt anyone whom I have not told will guess.
Wired up the Hanma 7" light bar today. Learned how to do all electrical-related stuff with my off road friend. Very educational.
Bluesea fuse distributor box (took pic before adding the fuse to the top right connector):
I cut wires and added connectors all on my own!!!
Lifted up the X on the hoist to check out the underside damage from Hooker Canyon, i.e. damage to transfer case.
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Wired up the Hanma 7" light bar today. Learned how to do all electrical-related stuff with my off road friend. Very educational.
Bluesea fuse distributor box (took pic before adding the fuse to the top right connector):
I cut wires and added connectors all on my own!!!
Lifted up the X on the hoist to check out the underside damage from Hooker Canyon, i.e. damage to transfer case.
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- Location
- Smyrna, TN
Boy, when you lift it, YOU LIFT IT.
I like it. And uber jealous of the wiring help. I need it bad.
I like it. And uber jealous of the wiring help. I need it bad.
- Location
- Idaho!
Some other off road friends came over later. This is what they drove:
- Location
- Amarillo, TX
Um....
- Location
- Smyrna, TN
What is that?!
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Pro-2X
Suspension Lift
- Location
- Rockmart, GA
Obviously it is a Camaro monster truck.
Pro-2X
Suspension Lift
- Location
- Rockmart, GA
Second in badassery only to the el camino monster truck.
- Location
- Idaho!
Hahaha yep, a camaro. Albeit, a modified one.
Here is what his Tacoma looks like (probably one of the coolest ones I've ever seen):
Here is what his Tacoma looks like (probably one of the coolest ones I've ever seen):
- Location
- Amarillo, TX
Is it pink?
- Location
- Idaho!
Ha yeah. Not until I swap out axles will that happen. Oh, and when I win the lottery to afford it all.
*sigh* Someday...Thanks! John, you make me laugh.
Wish it was my Taco. And no, it is not pink. It is purple, silly. Bwahaha! Though I'm sure we can add some pink bits to it.
- Location
- Idaho!
Finally got the transfer case (Shrock) and painted it lime green:
View of front bumper with new tow points and lights installed:
The X's new parking spot behind the front gate:
View of front bumper with new tow points and lights installed:
The X's new parking spot behind the front gate:
- Location
- Idaho!
Notes to self:
Limit time spent with gearheads- they give me way too many ideas
Transfer case gears vs diff (R&P) gears
Assess cost pro/con for each
Thread on TNX discussing t-case gear options: http://www.thenewx.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20942&highlight=atlas&page=2
Research diff between d300 and atlas. I am soooo not a gearhead, ugh.
Limit time spent with gearheads- they give me way too many ideas
Transfer case gears vs diff (R&P) gears
- T-case: crap needed-
- Atlas2 ($2,360.85): http://www.advanceadapters.com/products/atlas2--atlas-2-speed-transfer-case/
- Transmission adapter ($201): https://ruggedrocksoffroad.com/atlas-transfercase-adapter-nissan-xterra-2005-by-advance-adapters-p-4161.html?osCsid=3rhqdv42487qdcrrnosqlveeg7
- +labor cost
- Diff gears: crap needed-
- Front axle (Titan m205)
- Rear axle (m226 or Ford 8.8 or keep c200)
- Superior 4.10 or 4.56 gears (see below)
- stock c200 axle 4.10 gears ($574): https://ruggedrocksoffroad.com/nissan-xterra-ring-and-pinion-gears-by-nissan-2005-rear-c200k-4083-p-35932.html?osCsid=3rhqdv42487qdcrrnosqlveeg7
- or m226 axle 4.10 gears ($384): https://ruggedrocksoffroad.com/nissan-xterra-ring-and-pinion-gears-by-nissan-2005-rear-c200k-4083-p-35932.html?osCsid=3rhqdv42487qdcrrnosqlveeg7
- Major rebuild kit for m226 ($159.95: https://ruggedrocksoffroad.com/nissan-xterra-ring-and-pinion-gears-major-install-kit-by-rugged-rocks-2005-rear-m226-d44-p-5682.html?osCsid=3rhqdv42487qdcrrnosqlveeg7
- +Labor install
Assess cost pro/con for each
Thread on TNX discussing t-case gear options: http://www.thenewx.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20942&highlight=atlas&page=2
Research diff between d300 and atlas. I am soooo not a gearhead, ugh.
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- Location
- Amarillo, TX
Easy answer: if it ain't broke, don't eff with it! Chafing gearing and such, especially if you aren't going to a larger set of tires (35's or bigger) is horribly wasteful, especially on fuel.
If you want to change transfer case, look into one of the 3 range ones that have hi/lo/crawl.
If you want to change transfer case, look into one of the 3 range ones that have hi/lo/crawl.
- Location
- Idaho!
^I do need to mess with the gearing b/c it is becoming a problem on some of the trails I go wheeling on. I am aware that I could just not wheel, but I am not accepting that as an option. I would like to have the piece of mind to descend w/o having to tap the brakes as much and possibly go into a slide. I wheel very often on a variety of terrain and put my X under a great deal of stress. It makes sense to me to alter the gears to improve the speed/power in which I am descending/overcoming an obstacle.
I like the tire size I am currently at and fuel is not an issue. If it was, I would not have my X (that's what I bought the Fiat for).
I have looked at things like the Rubi Crawler, but that is an add-on to the t-case that is already in place on rubicons, i.e. not a universal sort of "tool."
I like the tire size I am currently at and fuel is not an issue. If it was, I would not have my X (that's what I bought the Fiat for).
I have looked at things like the Rubi Crawler, but that is an add-on to the t-case that is already in place on rubicons, i.e. not a universal sort of "tool."
- Location
- Amarillo, TX
- Location
- Amarillo, TX
Y'know, it did just occur to me that the offroad is geared lower than a non-OR/P4X....perhaps find a gearing kit for one of these, in 1st gear 4hi I can't exceed 20mph on a pretty stout downhill, if I were in 4Lo I can expect it'd be 5-10mph max...
3.133:1 vs 3.357:1
Might get you the little slower and more control you're after, otherwise go for the 3.692 that come in the manual transmission x's...just remember if you Titan swap, the 3.692 won't match up on any Titan stock gearings from what I recall (could be wrong)
3.133:1 vs 3.357:1
Might get you the little slower and more control you're after, otherwise go for the 3.692 that come in the manual transmission x's...just remember if you Titan swap, the 3.692 won't match up on any Titan stock gearings from what I recall (could be wrong)
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- Location
- Idaho!
I want to go lower than 3.69. Some of the stuff I wheel would make having 4.10s (at least) more manageable. I literally want to crawl (or at least have better control). 5-10mph is too fast for some things I go on.
That Monster Box is pretty awesome. But holy chit expensive (makes the Atlas look cheap).
That Monster Box is pretty awesome. But holy chit expensive (makes the Atlas look cheap).
- Location
- Amarillo, TX
Agreed, 1st in 4lo even on stock OR gearing is almost too low with less than 35's....
- Location
- Idaho!
I see no point in going to 3.69's now when in the future I'll want to go lower. Might as well go to the gearing I want now rather than waste the money and time for a middle-ground gear.
Glad to hear there was such a difference of 3.13s to 3.69s.
Re-gearing will not happen any time soon anyway. I cannot afford food each month, much less a massive project to re-gear my X.
Glad to hear there was such a difference of 3.13s to 3.69s.
Re-gearing will not happen any time soon anyway. I cannot afford food each month, much less a massive project to re-gear my X.
- Location
- Columbus OH
Save your pennies and do a SAS and swap a new rear axle in at the same time. Nissan gears are stupidly expensive, you can get and gear a d44 for just about the same price, and have all of the gearing options, and locker options that you could ever ask for. Just take both axles out of the same vehicle, it will be cheaper for you in the long run.
If you are keeping the tire size the same, than a set of crawlers in the transfer case is the best option for you. But if you are going to run a larger tire in the future you will be looking at doing both crawlers and in the diffs.
The diffs keep the motor and tranny happy moving the bigger meat, and the crawlers in the transfer case help when you are in 4 low.
If you are keeping the tire size the same, than a set of crawlers in the transfer case is the best option for you. But if you are going to run a larger tire in the future you will be looking at doing both crawlers and in the diffs.
The diffs keep the motor and tranny happy moving the bigger meat, and the crawlers in the transfer case help when you are in 4 low.
- Location
- Idaho!
Alrighty, well, the time has come to let my X be the way it is....for now.
I have a life goal that I would like to achieve and as a result will be pinching pennies for the next 2 years, i.e. retire modding the X. Do not worry, I will not stop wheeling it or maintaining it (and I would NEVER sell it).
For more details on my life goal, here is my FB group page (which will have to do until I create a real webpage): https://www.facebook.com/groups/IdahoFiatMongols/
I have a life goal that I would like to achieve and as a result will be pinching pennies for the next 2 years, i.e. retire modding the X. Do not worry, I will not stop wheeling it or maintaining it (and I would NEVER sell it).
For more details on my life goal, here is my FB group page (which will have to do until I create a real webpage): https://www.facebook.com/groups/IdahoFiatMongols/
MadMike
First Fill-Up (of many)
- Location
- Fort Collins, CO
That would be AWESOME! Always thought it would be cool to do an overland rally like that. Good luck on getting everything in order. Definitely gonna have to post all kinds of cool pics and stories about it when you're done:w00t:
- Location
- Idaho!
Oh you can count on that! I know it is 2 years away, but since i do not have a pot to piss in in terms of disposable income, i figure the sooner i start saving and advertising for sponsors the better! If you have a FB account, feel free to join my group.
I am totally going to use some Xterra Perofmance goodies for it to spread the X love...even if I will be driving a FIAT.
Once I set up my official website, I'll share it on here for everyone to peruse and learn about the Mongol Rally!
I am totally going to use some Xterra Perofmance goodies for it to spread the X love...even if I will be driving a FIAT.
Once I set up my official website, I'll share it on here for everyone to peruse and learn about the Mongol Rally!
- Location
- Idaho!
So here is my current dilemma:
I love my X dearly, but its crap gearing and lack of a locker is becoming increasingly difficult to overcome with the goals I have and with the way I wheel. The c200 and r180 axles are not easy to swap things in and out of. I have done a price analysis to re-gear my X and add a rear locker (either Aussie or e-locker) and neither option is feasible with my income, i.e. need to replace front and rear axles, buy gears for front and rear and get locker for rear (and possibly compressor, depending on locker type).
Costs for re-gearing:
c200K 4.10s = $574.95
c200K 3.73 = $384.95
No compatible gears for r180. So either get m205 (TS front) or m226 (rear)
m205 gears: 3.73 = $519.95 or 4.10 = $309.95
m226 gears: $384.95 for both 3.73/4.10
Add in cost of buying m205, LCAs, extended brake lines, etc. will make this an expensive endeavor. Not to mention getting a locker.
I even looked at options to mate our transfer case with another one or even swap it out with a Toyota. None of these options are cost-effective or even remotely simple to do.
I am considering the following, elling the X and getting either:
a 2004 Jeep WJ (Grand Cherokee) with I6 and selec-trac (d30/d35 axles),i.e. Laredo model, OR a used OR/Pro4X.
The main issue with getting the OR/Pro4 is cost. WJs are easily found around here and I can mod the crap out of the axles and it be cost effective. There is a larger aftermarket availability and it is cheaper to modify and be as effective on trail.
Xterras, especially OR/Pro4 models are not as common and I may not be able to afford it since I would plan to swap most of my stuff over to it therefore lowering the selling price of my X. Not to mention if I hstayed with the X, I still have to deal with the stupid axles. Ugh. Tough decisions.
I love my X dearly, but its crap gearing and lack of a locker is becoming increasingly difficult to overcome with the goals I have and with the way I wheel. The c200 and r180 axles are not easy to swap things in and out of. I have done a price analysis to re-gear my X and add a rear locker (either Aussie or e-locker) and neither option is feasible with my income, i.e. need to replace front and rear axles, buy gears for front and rear and get locker for rear (and possibly compressor, depending on locker type).
Costs for re-gearing:
c200K 4.10s = $574.95
c200K 3.73 = $384.95
No compatible gears for r180. So either get m205 (TS front) or m226 (rear)
m205 gears: 3.73 = $519.95 or 4.10 = $309.95
m226 gears: $384.95 for both 3.73/4.10
Add in cost of buying m205, LCAs, extended brake lines, etc. will make this an expensive endeavor. Not to mention getting a locker.
I even looked at options to mate our transfer case with another one or even swap it out with a Toyota. None of these options are cost-effective or even remotely simple to do.
I am considering the following, elling the X and getting either:
a 2004 Jeep WJ (Grand Cherokee) with I6 and selec-trac (d30/d35 axles),i.e. Laredo model, OR a used OR/Pro4X.
The main issue with getting the OR/Pro4 is cost. WJs are easily found around here and I can mod the crap out of the axles and it be cost effective. There is a larger aftermarket availability and it is cheaper to modify and be as effective on trail.
Xterras, especially OR/Pro4 models are not as common and I may not be able to afford it since I would plan to swap most of my stuff over to it therefore lowering the selling price of my X. Not to mention if I hstayed with the X, I still have to deal with the stupid axles. Ugh. Tough decisions.
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- Location
- South Park, CO
If you can swap out the parts do it, a modded truck NEVER sells for anywhere near the parts you have in it... NEVER. As for a WJ.... Its a damn unibody.... that is all.
- Location
- Idaho!
Very true. Amount in never equals amount out financially.
Well, I have been watching out for parts for the TS and have found Titan LCAs for $75 and $90 and one axle shaft for $70, all at a local junk yard.
Rockauto has CV half shafts for ~$45-50 ea and LCAs for ~$80 ea.
PartsGeek has inner and outer tie rod ends for ~$21 ea (total 4, 2 ea side).
Still need to find an m205 4x4 and another axle shaft.
If I can source parts cheaply enough, I can maybe do the front. But then I'd be stuck with wrong gearing for the front and back. Hmmmm.
If I have 2.5" coilovers with TC UCAs, would I need to get the Titan UCAs to replace them? I always thought 2.5 was the correct size for Titan stuff for the front.
Well, I have been watching out for parts for the TS and have found Titan LCAs for $75 and $90 and one axle shaft for $70, all at a local junk yard.
Rockauto has CV half shafts for ~$45-50 ea and LCAs for ~$80 ea.
PartsGeek has inner and outer tie rod ends for ~$21 ea (total 4, 2 ea side).
Still need to find an m205 4x4 and another axle shaft.
If I can source parts cheaply enough, I can maybe do the front. But then I'd be stuck with wrong gearing for the front and back. Hmmmm.
If I have 2.5" coilovers with TC UCAs, would I need to get the Titan UCAs to replace them? I always thought 2.5 was the correct size for Titan stuff for the front.
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- Location
- Amarillo, TX
Or find a junkyarded pro4x xterra, Titan, or fronty, in similar year as your X, and it already is the right gearing, and has the e-locker (and is tougher than the axle you have now)