rear bumper idea for RLC

[Clayboy]

whats up guys. i was just wanting to see what you all thought about this. i have been really interested in the workmanship of RLC bumpers. looks like the guys really knows his stuff. i sent him an email on Facebook about this, wanted to see what you guys thought. this is somewhat of the design i would want for a rear bumper, with all said and done.

http://project-jk.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=261902
heres a link to all the other stuff on the jk forums i was reading. http://www.jk-forum.com/jk-show-tell-33/2011-off-road-expo-199517/
i was thinking that he would do what everyone else did, by keeping the stock quarter panels and just updating the stock bumper, macking it stronger, but also adding a few things, like:
somewhat of a lobo rack for over the tire(optional)
a jerry can holder on both sides of the tire(which i plan to use one for fuel, and one from orpp that looks like a can but is a tool box)optional
a tow hitch reciever(standard)
two holes for reverse lights(optional)
and two clevis recovery points(optional)

i figure this would be needed by most people that actually want to invest their money in a good bumper.
is it just me or would this not be a really good idea? i really like the design of the cage around the tire, and it would give us more room for tools and parts. i would probably put a cooler up there haha. free up space for stuff in the back of the car.
just an idea

 

[xearth]

nice post, and I've putting some thought into this as well. The things that are a requirement for me before I drop money on a rear bumper are very similar to yours:

1. replacement for the stock bumper while retaining the quarter panels with recovery points
2. jerry can and hi lift mounts (not sure if I'm sold on the rack around the tire, but it does look pretty functional and quite similar to what I've seen on the back of a lot of expedition vehicles)
3. I'm also pretty fond of the tire leaning forward, more personal preference than anything else. But that always catches my eye

The last thing is I'd like the bumper and carrier to be tucked as close to the back of the X as possible. I recently started parking in my (new) garage and I don't think having another foot or so of bumper/tire is going to be optimal for garage parking (but then again neither are the roof lights or rack for fitting in height wise)

 

[drbandkgb]

Remember the closer that tire is to glass.. The more chance you have to busting it

 

[xearth]

Remember the closer that tire is to glass.. The more chance you have to busting it

truth. and the further away it is the more the garage door will hit it :dead:

 

[Roadwarrior]

I would like to see what he does, I personally want one that wraps the rear quarters, and gets rid of the plastic.. I want Jerry can options, and hi lift option as well as Tire carrier..

 

[Clayboy]

i would too, except i put all that time into making the second gen steps functional that i refuse to take it apart now haha. and yea thats why i said that we should try to get all of this stuff optional. have a mounting bracket ready to go on for this stuff, but be able to plug the holes or something if its not used. being bolt on for the lobo, and the jerry cans would really be nice. i like this central tire idea of having it in the middle, but then we cant really use a ladder. any ideas on how we could incorperate one? or do you think the ladder would be somewhat pointless with all of this done because if we are going to have all this stuff on the back of the car would it be pointless to have... cuz all of it is on the back lol.

 

[drbandkgb]

I would like to see a rlc ladder

 

[Clayboy]

haha wooooo! i found a better picture of a , personaly, better more concerved and cost effiecient design! and im poretty sure we could still get a ladder incorperated! check this out
http://bodyarmor4x4.com/ba/2011/05/rear-swing-arm-jerry-can-racks/

 

[TheFauxFox]

I figure the only reason the Jerry Cans are so high in your pic is to give way to the taillights. For our purposes, thats not really a problem.

You could do what I've sworn I've seen awhile ago, which is to put the ladder over the rear passenger window rather than dealing with too much on the rear.

 

[TN4x4Xterra]

I'd like to see the spare tire carrier have option to move the spare down to the ground for unmounting/mounting instead of trying to lift the tire up into place. I know there was something for Jeeps like that but more for Xterra version. Ehhh...not sure if Jerrycans are that high priority around here though....maybe if you spent a whole week at Coal Creek, then yeah I can see that.

 

[Clayboy]

my plan isnt for jerry cans its for tool holders that look llike jerry cans. they are sick. and having them makes it look like you have jerry cans, saves up room in the trunk, and on the occasion you need erry cans, you an put on on there. for me, i would have a tool jerry can and a water jerry can.
the tool can looks like this:

not to be a poser but i kinda wanna be a poser for this hahaha

 

[Roadwarrior]

I would like to wrap it like this..

or this

minus being on a heep, I really like this. as long as it is a swing out..

 

[AZhiAZiAM]

tucker i've actually been drawing something out like that for mine.. i want to match my front tube with a rear tube bumper.

 

[Roadwarrior]

tucker i've actually been drawing something out like that for mine.. i want to match my front tube with a rear tube bumper.

I love the prerunner style, and that is why I want tube.. but I want it to wrap the corners, just for more protection, and to get rid of the plastics..

 

[Silver dude]

It's difficult to incorporate the sides though. We have body metal under plastic which limits our options structuring it to the frame. Why so many bumper manufactures just say meh forget it. Because it would require a lot of modification for the buyer. If you made it hook out without bracing it to the frame the sides could easily smash in or pull out. Also as compared to a 4runner or jeep our bumperettes are massive and are like 35% of our rear fender. Not saying it's not possible I have seen it before. Just difficult to do right and get the same look as the pictures above.

Ben

 

[AZhiAZiAM]

ya ben i wouldn't wrap it around the corner. i would basically do something like the blue jeep minus the sides. just cut it off at the very farthest point on the side and leave the side plastics.

 

[Silver dude]

Something like NMterra's or you mean cutting the plastics and doing kind of a hybrid. Little of both examples?

http://www.xterranation.org/showthread.php?t=1412

Ben

 

[AZhiAZiAM]

ya like seans, i talked to him about it a little bit. he just cut into the bumper for the swing arm. not as much of a bucket like his is though a little thinner. i didn't see a side pic of his yet though. i want him to take a pic of it.

 

[Macland]

my plan isnt for jerry cans its for tool holders that look llike jerry cans. they are sick. and having them makes it look like you have jerry cans, saves up room in the trunk, and on the occasion you need erry cans, you an put on on there. for me, i would have a tool jerry can and a water jerry can.
the tool can looks like this:

not to be a poser but i kinda wanna be a poser for this hahaha

ORPP sells those for those that don't know!

 

[xearth]

clayboy, that second one you posted is right on the money;

 

[Clayboy]

i agree. thats the setup im going with no doubt. i think its perfect. i just will need to do something about holding it in place. if i am going to use the tool box from ORPP then i need to like weld it in place or something haha

 

[GPD605X]

Something like this...

or

 

[TheFauxFox]

Clayboy, ^^^ is what I was referencing in your thread a few days ago.

 

[Clayboy]

that side ladder looks pretty sick

... thats a really good idea. i also have a big dent right there so this would hide it well! hmm... how could you make that work and keep teh plastics though?

 

[TheFauxFox]

Mount it in the fenderwell.

 

[Clayboy]

hmmmm... maybe we could do something like this?? a little bigger and moreso towards the side, but have tube brackets that attatch to the stock roof rack?? and are braced of on the bottom maybe top of the light? idk but i love the idea of this side ladder! just something that clears the door and will allow this sweet bumper to work and have a ladder!

 

[ChiXterra]

Someone just needs to get down there to get measured up for a rear bumper--something like a Shrockworks would be perfect. I've been in touch with him, but I don't have the money to run down there.


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[drbandkgb]

If some one would buy mu current rear bumper id run up there and have him fab one so others could get one

 

[Timrich]

If I didn't already have one I'd buy it.

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[yellowx16]

id like to see an option that wraps around the sides somehow too

 

[Xterraforce]

James makes some really good looking rear bumpers for Grand Cherokees that wrap around to the rear wheel openings. One thing he commented on when I had my X there getting the front bumper made was the size of our side parts would make a rear bumper very expensive to ship. Freight companies charge by the linear foot generally. That's one of several reasons the front bumper stops at the area where the fenders begin to flare out instead of going all the way to the wheel opening. Rears could definitely be made but expect the bumper and the freight to be significantly more costly than the front. In my opinion though it would be totally worth it for the extra protection to the rear and sides.

 

[drbandkgb]

I wonder if the sides could be a bolt on... That way you could compact it for shipping

 

[Xterraforce]

I wonder if the sides could be a bolt on... That way you could compact it for shipping

This could be a very good idea. It could also open up the possibility of getting the main rear bumper then adding the side armor later if funds were tight. You know, like they pretty much always are.

 

[drbandkgb]

This could be a very good idea. It could also open up the possibility of getting the main rear bumper then adding the side armor later if funds were tight. You know, like they pretty much always are.

Well I don't know about that ..

 

[ChiXterra]

I just want a basic shrock type of rear bumper with frame stiffeners. Needs a tire carrier and a hitch mount with tow hook slots/holes. And fits in between the existing plastic.


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[Xado89]

Something like this...

I would love to have this on my first gen. Personally you could put that ladder on both back corners and could act as a start to an exo. hah.

 

[Clayboy]

check out what this guy did with his ladder! i just stumbled across this today, and thought it looked pretty sturdy and smart. will look more into it, but that way, its on the hatch. personally, i would swap this around and have the ladder on the passenger side and the tire on the driver, because the first aid hump is on that side, and it would take up less of my rear view

 

[TheFauxFox]

check out what this guy did with his ladder! i just stumbled across this today, and thought it looked pretty sturdy and smart. will look more into it, but that way, its on the hatch. personally, i would swap this around and have the ladder on the passenger side and the tire on the driver, because the first aid hump is on that side, and it would take up less of my rear view

Neat, but hard on the struts. That guy went overkill on the tubing.

Anyway, if you did that, you'd also need new struts (if not a metal bar) just to hold that up. That's roughly 100-120[lb] that the struts will struggle on (I know mine will). Also looks like a good way to break your rear glass unless it's extremely supported. It just needs a different design.

 

[Roadwarrior]

You are going to need super struts to hold that spare up when you raise the gate. I would also be worried that if that thing bounces it would tug on that ladder denting the rear hatch..

 

[Clayboy]

oh, im not doing it hahaha i was throwing it out there for you guys, im definately doing the same as the jeep i posted earlier with the jerry cans on either side of the tire. but it did make me interested in the idea! i think if i would do it, i would do it backwards, and have a mount like jeeps have on their hatch, put it on the rear hatch and bolt the tire that way too for support, but it does seem like a faulty design. still really cool though!