Slider Syles for 1st Gens
- Thread starter drbandkgb
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- Location
- North Alabama
Cost: $200
Producer: DAR Inc. (Drunken Alabama Rednecks)
Style/Options: Custom made for 2" BL
Full Coverage: Yes
Producer: DAR Inc. (Drunken Alabama Rednecks)
Style/Options: Custom made for 2" BL
Full Coverage: Yes
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- Location
- Columbus OH
- Location
- Ontario, Canada
Cost: Bought Used
EOE Sliders
Style/Options: Works with a 2" Body lift or without
Full Coverage: Yes
EOE Sliders
Style/Options: Works with a 2" Body lift or without
Full Coverage: Yes
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- Location
- Conroe, TX
Cost: $379 No shipping because I live just north of them.
Producer: Shrockworks
Style/Options: For 2" BL, ordered them bare with one tube support.
Full Coverage: Yes
Primed and painted with Rustoleum Bedliner
Producer: Shrockworks
Style/Options: For 2" BL, ordered them bare with one tube support.
Full Coverage: Yes
Primed and painted with Rustoleum Bedliner
- Location
- Dayton, OH
Rocky Road
Makes with/without the 2" BL
$299 without the extra bar
$399 with the bar
Took about 7 days for them to be made, a week to be shipped and arrive in Dayton from Colorado (I think)
Makes with/without the 2" BL
$299 without the extra bar
$399 with the bar
Took about 7 days for them to be made, a week to be shipped and arrive in Dayton from Colorado (I think)
- Location
- Probably in class..
Has anyone decided that they would rather have more tube supports? I like the thought of having two supports, but I see many people run with 1.
- Location
- Rhode Island
Dave P ran with one support and it now has a small bend upward from hitting a rock. Double tube support allows for a more structured step tube.
- Location
- Winlsow Twsp, NJ
You should make your lovely Snugz a set! :blushx2:
- Location
- IL
+1 on finks, its what I have and they are built for the 2" lift.
- Location
- Probably in class..
CMD, if you want to make me a set of those.. I would easily pay twice the materials cost just to have you fab them. haha I love them.
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- Location
- Bowling Green, KY
I like the ones Kelly and Drake run with the flare in the back to help protect the fender flare!
- Location
- Probably in class..
I also like the kickout, it also provides a nice little step.
- Location
- S.Subs of Chicago, IL.
Are the sliders from AC made by Shrockworks? If so, does anyone make as good a set for less? For Gen1's.
Yes the sliders ac sells are from shrock.. And your going to wait just as long for them.. I think hefty is making them for gen 1s and there is a guy in Cali.. Ryandavenport has used that makes sliders and there is only a couple week wait time
Sent from the satellite of love..
Sent from the satellite of love..
- Location
- Dayton, OH
http://www.rocky-road.com/xterra-rock-sliders.html
$309 for the base model and $409 with the extra rail. They also have a speedy turnaround time
- Location
- S.Subs of Chicago, IL.
The second support tube never hurts; Especially if the sliders themselves use 0.120" thick walled tube, which is light for a rig over 4k lbs.
If getting it custom made, get thicker walled tube, say 0.134" or more, it will hold up better if you actually do anything that tests them.
The basic styles are the old school flat bars that stick straight out from the frame...they are easy to make, nothing changes if you get a BL, other than the rocker panels they are supposed to protect being even FURTHER away, etc. They don't have bump-outs to catch on rocks and trees, or other protuberances to get caught up on.
Their ground clearance is the worst of the styles, as they come straight out from the frame rails, and they protect the worst because they don't come up to protect the rockers. (Worst doesn't mean they don't work, it just means all the other styles are more protective, etc)
The second style mounts to the frame rails, but comes out, and then up, to protect the rocker panels. Its harder to make, but improves the ground clearance, and is more protective of the rocker panels. These are also smooth and devoid of protuberances to get caught up on things. If you get a BL, they still fit, still make a good step, but, are less protective as the rockers are now a few inches higher, etc.
A BL version curves up HIGHER, to compensate for the rockers being a few inches higher, and to provide MORE ground clearance, etc.
A BL version of this style will NOT work W/O a BL, as w/o the BL, the rockers will be too LOW, and the lower door edges might hit, etc.
The showier versions of either style add protuberances that can get caught on things and hurt clearance, but which make better/wider steps.
The further out a slider sticks, the longer the lever arm that is created, and the more force an impact has on the mounts, longer tubes, etc. Try to snap a full sized pencil, vs snapping a little stub....its easy to snap a long pencil, and all but impossible to snap the stub, the lever arms are too short to get enough force, etc.
Same for a slider....the shorter the tubes' run, the stronger. The further it sticks out, the weaker it will be/the more gusseting/bracing it needs to compensate.
For the same wall thickness, a round tube is stronger than a box tube. The wider the box cross section, the weaker it is across the shorter span (The better the step the worse the protection). Imagine a plank of wood, like a 2x4....lay it flat over a ditch, and put your weight on it...it will sag in the middle, or even snap if there's a lot of weight.
Turn the same 2x4 on edge, so the skinny side is up, it will now support a sheet ton more weight. Same concept.
Round tube can be 1/3 thinner walled, and still be stronger than the same wall thickness of a boxed tube...or the same wall thickness, but a lot stronger, etc.
If getting sliders made, thing about all of this.
If getting it custom made, get thicker walled tube, say 0.134" or more, it will hold up better if you actually do anything that tests them.
The basic styles are the old school flat bars that stick straight out from the frame...they are easy to make, nothing changes if you get a BL, other than the rocker panels they are supposed to protect being even FURTHER away, etc. They don't have bump-outs to catch on rocks and trees, or other protuberances to get caught up on.
Their ground clearance is the worst of the styles, as they come straight out from the frame rails, and they protect the worst because they don't come up to protect the rockers. (Worst doesn't mean they don't work, it just means all the other styles are more protective, etc)
The second style mounts to the frame rails, but comes out, and then up, to protect the rocker panels. Its harder to make, but improves the ground clearance, and is more protective of the rocker panels. These are also smooth and devoid of protuberances to get caught up on things. If you get a BL, they still fit, still make a good step, but, are less protective as the rockers are now a few inches higher, etc.
A BL version curves up HIGHER, to compensate for the rockers being a few inches higher, and to provide MORE ground clearance, etc.
A BL version of this style will NOT work W/O a BL, as w/o the BL, the rockers will be too LOW, and the lower door edges might hit, etc.
The showier versions of either style add protuberances that can get caught on things and hurt clearance, but which make better/wider steps.
The further out a slider sticks, the longer the lever arm that is created, and the more force an impact has on the mounts, longer tubes, etc. Try to snap a full sized pencil, vs snapping a little stub....its easy to snap a long pencil, and all but impossible to snap the stub, the lever arms are too short to get enough force, etc.
Same for a slider....the shorter the tubes' run, the stronger. The further it sticks out, the weaker it will be/the more gusseting/bracing it needs to compensate.
For the same wall thickness, a round tube is stronger than a box tube. The wider the box cross section, the weaker it is across the shorter span (The better the step the worse the protection). Imagine a plank of wood, like a 2x4....lay it flat over a ditch, and put your weight on it...it will sag in the middle, or even snap if there's a lot of weight.
Turn the same 2x4 on edge, so the skinny side is up, it will now support a sheet ton more weight. Same concept.
Round tube can be 1/3 thinner walled, and still be stronger than the same wall thickness of a boxed tube...or the same wall thickness, but a lot stronger, etc.
If getting sliders made, thing about all of this.
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- Location
- S.Subs of Chicago, IL.
If getting it custom made, get thicker walled tube, say 0.134" or more, it will hold up better if you actually do anything that tests them. A BL version curves up HIGHER, to compensate for the rockers being a few inches higher, and to provide MORE ground clearance, etc.
Round tube can be 1/3 thinner walled, and still be stronger than the same wall thickness of a boxed tube...or the same wall thickness, but a lot stronger, etc.
With this explaination, would you suggest someone to order from? Other than Shrock...
LOL
- Location
- Columbus OH
- Location
- S.Subs of Chicago, IL.
Are they still shipping unessembled products for Gen1 only?
- Location
- Columbus OH
you would have to contact him but i am sure that he would ship anything in pieces if requested. I have been running a set of his for years. or he might have the ability to do them fully assembled and painted. I dont know how updated the website is.
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- Location
- S.Subs of Chicago, IL.
That's the problem, I'd have to find someone to weld the pieces together. I'd rather have the completed set but the page says due to problems thay only ship in pieces. BUMMER !!!
- Location
- Columbus OH
contact him to see if he can weld them up, the web site might be a little out of date. I had him do mine so all that I had to do was paint and hang.
- Location
- S.Subs of Chicago, IL.
I will do just that...Oh wait... tomorrow's a holiday... darn job doesn't recognisize it though.
- Location
- Denver, CO
Concept Customs. I don't have them yet, but I plan on getting some eventually. He's got two different styles and doesn't charge extra for a body lift.
- Location
- Rhode Island
I'm looking at them as well. Socerbrace reps them pretty hard.
- Location
- S.Subs of Chicago, IL.
Cost: About $150
Producer: Me
Style/Options: No BL
Full Coverage: Yes
Producer: Me
Style/Options: No BL
Full Coverage: Yes
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- Location
- Huntsville, AL
They're very simple, which is good, but do they stick out enough to provide enough protection on the rocks?
- Location
- S.Subs of Chicago, IL.
I hope so... the actual slider bar itself starts at the pinch seam and comes out to where the rocker panel ends. I'm still debating on adding a step for the wife but I would use 3/16 for that not 1/4.
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- Location
- machesney park IL
Depends how you look at it... in the winter it will be less likely to leave slush marks on your pants. While the added protection and ability to use it as a step is nice. His are lighter and provide less to step over.
- Location
- Huntsville, AL
While a few lbs here and there add up, I don't think weight is a big issue here.
ChiXterra
Wheeling
- Location
- Northern Illinois
He seems to make good stuff, but I have heard some not so good things about them. I get really inconsistent communication from them, which has caused me to look elsewhere.