Would a Ham Radio & CD Player fit in the "CD Player area?"

SKAVYNGR

Need Bigger Tires
Location
Lexington, KY
I haven't seen this done, but I have the 6 disc RF CD player. There's enough space to replace that with a CB and CD Player, yes?

Does anyone have photos?


-Jonny
 

Tay-Lo

I'm the king of junk food!
Location
Upstate SC
As long as the HAM is single din you should be fine.....unless you're like me and for some reason your radio sits lower than it should making the area below it to small. But there are plent of people that have put CBs in there with it.
 

Mr Bills

Bought an X
Location
Area Code 530
There are no 2 meter Ham radios that I know of that are single DIN (close, but not exact). There is a Cobra CB that is specifically designed for a single DIN install. With that, you could run a single DIN auto system.
 

Muadeeb

Nissan al Gaib
Admin
Location
Dallas
I didn't know there were a difference. CB Radio,


-Jonny
CB = Citizen's Band. No license, just buy a unit and key up.
HAM = Licensed amateur band. Different bands are available, most popular are 2m and 160m. The test isn't hard (since they got rid of the Morse Code portion), but most people don't bother.
 

Mr Bills

Bought an X
Location
Area Code 530
I didn't know there were a difference. CB Radio,

-Jonny


The Cobra 18 WX ST II is marketed for single DIN in-dash installations. Note that it has the microphone plug in front as well as a front-firing speaker.

See: http://www.rightchannelradios.com/cobra-18-wx-st-ii-cb-radio.html

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xterror04

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Carlisle, Iowa
"Head units generally come in either single DIN (180 x 50 mm panel) or double DIN (180 x 100 mm panel) size. The depth is not standardized; as a result, some cars such as the Opel Manta / Ascona have the correct sized front aperture but will accommodate few DIN sized radios other than the original due to the shallow depth; this despite the vehicle being manufactured as late as 1988. The US standard for a DIN radio is 2" x 7" and the Double DIN sized radio is a 4" x 7". Some radios in Japanese Kei cars do not conform to the DIN standard however."

From Wikipedia
 

maillet282

If you bleeding, Imma fix you
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Location
Ontario Canada
here is a pic of my buddy's xterra, 12 Pro 4x. as you can see he swapped out the RF head unit for a diffrent one and has his CB installed under it. he is actually using the one that Robert Bills posted a few posts ago

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Tay-Lo

I'm the king of junk food!
Location
Upstate SC
Since you're getting a CB you will also need a SWR meter. It measures the signal being sent by the radio and the signal being reflected back into the radio (From bad antenna tuning to enviromental to cars/trees/buildings)

Though some CB's do come with the SWR feature built in.
 

maillet282

If you bleeding, Imma fix you
Moderator
Location
Ontario Canada
IMO and experiance, the built in SWR meters aren't the most reliable one. if the OP knows somebody close by that already has one, he might be able to borrow it to complete the install and tune his antenna. unless he wants to go and get one regardless and then he can have it in his tool chest for futur use
 

knightrider

Bought an X
Location
San Diego, CA
Yea I suggest seeing if someone local will just let you borrow an swr meter, they are inexpensive but seldom used. I just loan mine out to people, or carry it on trail runs to tune others antennas

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SKAVYNGR

Need Bigger Tires
Location
Lexington, KY
I'm assuming there would be guys at events (WENT) that wouldn't mind to lend me theirs? How much are they? Do they come in a standalone platform?


-Jonny
 

El Robot

Bought an X
Location
Frankfort Ky
I have an SWR meter at the house if you haven't done it by the time I get home, and I have the Cobra 18 WX ST II stacked under my radio. I went a much easier route for mounting, and used two heavy duty zip ties (they are what we use on the tail rotor dust boots), two phenolic strips, and the stock RF double din radio mounts. Zip tied the radios together with the strips in the middle to facilitate a gap for cooling purposes, and in the face side zip ties (one in the back, one in the front) I cinched in the two stock L-brackets. Easy, quicky, and really effective. I had to dremel a slight notch for the mike cable to thread in properly.
 

El Robot

Bought an X
Location
Frankfort Ky
Also, CB has a very limited range, whereas a well set up HAM rig can literally reach anywhere in the world. I plan on having a HAM set up for TAT part deux just for emergency purposes. Also HAM isn't cheap. A good setup will be 700-1000 bucks.
 

knightrider

Bought an X
Location
San Diego, CA
While ham is not as cheap as cb, you don't need to spend 700-1000 just to have a good setup. An entry level 2m radio can be had for less than $200, antennas and mounts vary but $150 will get you a lip mount and a good 2m antenna. So there are options for less than 700

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Nd4SpdSe

First Fill-Up (of many)
Location
Quebec, QC
I've borrowed a CB antenna tuner, and I have my own now, but in the end, I tuned it, and I don't like it. I have a Firestik for my setup. It was actually too sensitive I was getting much more in terms of weak signals causing noise, so I had to have the squelch higher than normal and sometimes it wasn't even enough. So I just run a normal, untuned Firestik, which I need to get another one since I taped a bunch of xmas lights on it and decided to keep the lights on and just get a new antenna because of all the tape...
 

El Robot

Bought an X
Location
Frankfort Ky
I've borrowed a CB antenna tuner, and I have my own now, but in the end, I tuned it, and I don't like it. I have a Firestik for my setup. It was actually too sensitive I was getting much more in terms of weak signals causing noise, so I had to have the squelch higher than normal and sometimes it wasn't even enough. So I just run a normal, untuned Firestik, which I need to get another one since I taped a bunch of xmas lights on it and decided to keep the lights on and just get a new antenna because of all the tape...

The only problem with not tuning your CB antenna, is that you can possibly fry your radio. I did it with my Cobra classic years ago.

You're right, you can do a HAM set up for less than 700 bones, but generally when it comes to something like this, I'd rather have a radio that will facilitate my growth in the hobby than one that does just the basics and in a year I'll want to upgrade. The radio I want (Yaesu FT-857D) is 800 bucks alone. Plus antenna (300ish) plus wiring... you get the picture. But in the end, I call worth it.
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dhyde79

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Amarillo, TX
CB = Citizen's Band. No license, just buy a unit and key up. HAM = Licensed amateur band. Different bands are available, most popular are 2m and 160m. The test isn't hard (since they got rid of the Morse Code portion), but most people don't bother.

Um....
For HAM
With a tech license, 2m and 0.7m are the popular ones (and are what most dual band radios are)
10m and 6m are the next two with General and Extra licenses...

To answer the initial question...get a ham and a CB. Make the CB a small one, and get a ham radio with a removable face that can mount independent of the radio...

Tada! Now you need to study up and pass the tech and general ham licenses, then you can talk local, or coast to coast and even across oceans from your truck...
 

dhyde79

Titan Swapped / SAS'd
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Location
Amarillo, TX
While ham is not as cheap as cb, you don't need to spend 700-1000 just to have a good setup. An entry level 2m radio can be had for less than $200, antennas and mounts vary but $150 will get you a lip mount and a good 2m antenna. So there are options for less than 700 Sent from my One using Tapatalk

Ditto, I'm ordering a quad band (10/6/2/0.7m) that runs around 300 and has some pretty good reviews and is a TYT with relocatable face/control panel...
 

SKAVYNGR

Need Bigger Tires
Location
Lexington, KY
Nice fellas. I plan on getting a CB sometime later in the year. Just trying to brush up on the newly additional information. Way more other things that I need for the X; like lights, winch, and a CD player.
 

Muadeeb

Nissan al Gaib
Admin
Location
Dallas
Um....
For HAM
With a tech license, 2m and 0.7m are the popular ones (and are what most dual band radios are)
10m and 6m are the next two with General and Extra licenses...

To answer the initial question...get a ham and a CB. Make the CB a small one, and get a ham radio with a removable face that can mount independent of the radio...

Tada! Now you need to study up and pass the tech and general ham licenses, then you can talk local, or coast to coast and even across oceans from your truck...
I'm used to people taking old AM tube rigs and converting them to 160m, and FM rigs to 2m.
(AM runs 555m - 187 ish and FM is 3m at 100MHz)
 
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dhyde79

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Amarillo, TX
ditto that up there ;) I'm getting into HAM pretty quickly, simply because I want my rig functional for SHTF non-mainstream comms...and HAM has much better range than most anything else if you have the proper antennas....
 

Mr Bills

Bought an X
Location
Area Code 530
. . . HAM isn't cheap. A good setup will be 700-1000 bucks.

You don't need to spend that much to get started in Ham radio. With a little Internet price shopping the price of admission can be as low as $100. (The test is $15; you can buy a chinese Baofeng (pronounced bo-fung) 2m/70cm HT on Amazon for about $45; an MFJ mag mount antenna with adaptor for the Baofeng is about $37.) From there, you can spend as much as you like/have.

Please keep in mind that a Ham radio is not a CB on steroids. Hams are serious about their hobby and protective of their band privileges, hence little tolerance for FCC rule breaking and the nonsense that pollutes the CB frequencies. However, the rules are easy to follow and are no impediment to effective use of the 2m and 70cm frequencies in the backcountry.

I've had my Ham license for nearly 12 years, and although I have never progressed much beyond "appliance operator" (the mildly derisive term used by Hams to describe those of us who aren't into electronics and radio theory and use our Ham radios only for trail and road trip communications), I have nothing but respect for those serious about the hobby.

My take on the "CB or Ham or both" issue is this: CB is still the most common mode of radio communication in the offroad world, and required on most organized runs and club events, hence the first radio I would buy despite its shortcomings. An inexpensive entry-level 2m Ham radio is more than enough for 99% of us and a good addition to one's communications gear if one regularly ventures offroad with other Hams and is willing to follow FCC rules and amateur radio protocol.
 
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